Thursday, 15 January 2015

1 step nearer home

Well a miracle has happened my son has been moved from Durham to Preston to be
nearer home yes it may be a bit nearer but not that much, anyway beggars can't be
choosers and we have to be thankful for all small mercies however small or large they are.

He has just phoned me to say he has arrived at the new prison and will talk later as there is a
lot of things for him to do.

Good luck to all the other families that are in our situation and lets hope they have a bit of luck like us at least.

Wednesday, 31 December 2014

Not A Lot of News But taking this moment to wish Everyone who reads this and have supported us
TO WISH YOU ALL A VERY HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR FOR 2015 AND MAY EVERYTHING YOU WISH COME TRUE.

Monday, 29 December 2014

16th December 2014
 
Dear Mr
 
Re: Your Letter
 
I write in connection with the above which was received by me on the 15th December 2014.
 
You are entirely correct in what you say, and I am very conscious of the fact that the daily struggles experienced by lifer prisoners are not just problems suffered by IPP inmates.
In the New Year, I propose, having received your letter, to draft an article in Inside Time concerning all lifer inmates and not just to restrict myself to IPP prisoners.
Your letter was very well received. 
 
Yours sincerely
 
David Wells
WELLS BURCOMBE LLP
 
 The above is a copy of a email sent to my son and below is an excerpt from the inside times for December 2014

Over-tariff IPPs: an appeal for your stories

By David Wells - Partner, Wells Burcombe Solicitors, from insidetime issue December 2014
Two years ago the then Justice Secretary announced that IPP sentences were being abolished...

Over-tariff IPPs: an
appeal for your stories
Two years ago the then Justice Secretary announced that IPP sentences were being abolished. This was undoubtedly good news for those practising within the criminal justice system, but regrettably of no comfort to those serving IPP sentences at the time as the announcement was not applied retrospectively. This means that there are still thousands of IPP inmates left rotting in a prison system clearly incapable of addressing the rehabilitative requirements designed to reduce risk.
But there are still criminal practitioners, like me, and others outside the criminal justice system who take a great deal of interest in IPP prisoners. One such person is a journalist from the BBC, Zoe Conway, who reported on IPP prisoners for BBC Newsnight earlier this year. She wishes to continue to highlight the plight of those affected by this most draconian sentence. She has visited and listened to numerous family members who report the daily struggles of inmates to access courses and to prepare properly for parole board hearings. She and I discussed the recent debate in the House of Lords which announced new government figures which show that 121 people sentenced before 2008 to a tariff of 12 months or less are still languishing in prison. 8 of them were given tariffs of 3 months, 22 tariffs of less than 6 months and yet they are still inside. She quite rightly stated that most people would be surprised and perhaps shocked by this. Indeed, one House of Lords Peer when he learned of the many inmates well beyond tariff said 'how can that be justified.' He is right. It can't.
Even the Justice Secretary who abolished the sentence two years ago described the sentence itself as a stain on the criminal justice system. But perhaps even more alarmingly, the man responsible for the sentence all those years ago, the then Home Secretary David Blunkett, told BBC Newsnight that the sentence had in some cases led to 'injustices' and said ''I regret that''. He also told Zoe Conway, in her interview with him, that the Labour government ''got the implementation wrong''. He acknowledged that the problems with access to courses and the serious lack of resources generally was not foreseen. That statement alone is nothing short of shocking.
IPP sentences were to be reserved for only the most seriously violent and sexual offences. It was anticipated that this would affect about 900 prisoners. In 2011 there were 6000 IPP inmates. Now there are 5,500 and two-thirds of these are over tariff.
So what can be done? Apart from continuing to consider appealing IPP sentences where this has not been considered previously, and focusing on parole and sentence plan targets as best as possible in order to support release, individuals like Zoe Conway, who have great influence in the media can help. What is her aim? Well, she wants to find out who these inmates are serving these shorter tariffs, why they are still in prison and whether they are able to access courses and parole board hearings. She would like to tell individual and collective stories for broadcast on national news.
It is for this reason that I invite all such IPP inmates to write to me to share your stories. If you agree to share your plight with her through me, you can write to me and I will pass on your correspondence. You do not have to agree to have your name published or made public. You can simply share your story, the problems you have faced and obviously your own views on the position you face.
For my part, my firm continues to do all it can to ensure natural progression and even release for IPP inmates. Wells Burcombe have enjoyed much success at the Appeal Courts and have enjoyed equal success before the Parole Board. Wells Burcombe continue to receive numerous enquiries from IPP inmates concerning Parole. Should you have a pending Parole review or wish for advice concerning appealing your IPP sentence, simply write to us at the address below.
Wells Burcombe Solicitors
5 Holywell Hill, St Albans, Hertfordshire, AL1 1EU




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Sunday, 14 December 2014

Well another Christmas is creeping up on us and I am still no nearer to being home with my family.

I nearly lost my Dad back in August but could not get a compassionate visit to see him, luckily
he pulled through although still very weak he had his 94th birthday in October.

Mum has had it hard with dad being so ill, plus my sister has been ill as well, so hence the reason why there as not been very much in the way of  updates.

Hopefully things will look up in the new year we can only hope.

Would like to wish everyone who has looked at my blog a Very Merry Christmas to you all and
a Prosperous New Year to you all and keep on reading my blog

Friday, 5 December 2014






BBC News UK

 




Prison book ban ruled unlawful by High Court

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The government's ban on sending books to prisoners in England and Wales is unlawful, the High Court has declared.
Under the current rules prisoners are prevented from receiving parcels unless they have "exceptional circumstances", such as a medical condition.
Mr Justice Collins said he could see "no good reason" to restrict access to books for prisoners.
The Prison Service said it was a surprising judgement, and would look at how it would deal with the ruling.
Incentives scheme The legal challenge was brought by inmate Barbara Gordon-Jones, who is serving part of her life sentence at Send prison near Woking in Surrey.
The book ban was introduced in November last year in England and Wales, as part of a scheme which limits what prisoners can receive in parcels.
The Incentives and Earned Privileges scheme was brought in partly as an attempt to crack down on drugs getting into prisons.
Prisoners had argued that books sent to them in parcels can be key to their rehabilitation.
Prisoners are still able to read books borrowed from a prison library - and last month the Ministry of Justice relaxed restrictions on the number of books they could keep in their cells.
But it has been claimed that prison libraries are often inadequately stocked, and can be hard to access because there is not always staff available to take prisoners to them.
'Unnecessary and irrational' Mr Justice Collins said: "I see no good reason in the light of the importance of books for prisoners to restrict beyond what is required by volumetric control and reasonable measures relating to frequency of parcels and security considerations."
He said that the scheme referred to prisoners earning privileges, and added: "In the light of the statement made about the importance of books... to refer to them as a privilege is strange."
A Prison Service spokesman said: "This is a surprising judgement. There never was a specific ban on books and the restrictions on parcels have been in existence across most of the prison estate for many years and for very good reason.
"Prisoners have access to the same public library service as the rest of us, and can buy books through the prison shop.
"We are considering how best to fulfil the ruling of the court. However, we are clear that we will not do anything that would create a new conduit for smuggling drugs and extremist materials into our prisons."
Poet laureate Carol Ann Duffy Poet laureate Carol Ann Duffy campaigned against the rules
In a statement, solicitors for Barbara Gordon-Jones welcomed the ruling.
"Reading is a right and not a privilege, to be encouraged and not restricted," they said.
"Indeed, Mr Justice Collins commented that, as far as books are concerned, 'to refer to them as a privilege is strange'.
"The policy was unnecessary, irrational and counter-productive to rehabilitation. It is now rightly judged unlawful."
The shadow justice secretary Sadiq Khan described the existing rules as "absurd".
"It had nothing to do with punishing and reforming prisoners but was an example of David Cameron's government's sloppy policy-making," he said.
The Liberal Democrats' home affairs spokesman Julian Huppert said: "We need education in our prisons. It's vital from the moment people walk through the door they get the help and rehabilitation they need to ensure they don't end up back behind bars."
'Responsibility to rehabilitate' Erwin James, who served 20 years for murder, described the original ban as "outrageous", and said books had helped him in prison.
He told BBC Radio 4's World at One: "I learnt that a good book can change the way you think about life. I was sent books by authors, I was sent books by probation officers.
"I was sent a book called The Grass Arena by John Healy, an amazing book of survival and redemption. You know, it was so important, so important for developing my own thinking and my own understanding of who I was and where I was going."
The rules have been opposed by arts' figures including Poet laureate Carol Ann Duffy, actress Vanessa Redgrave and author Kathy Lette.
A protest was held outside Pentonville Prison in north London in March.
Girl with a Pearl Earring author Tracy Chevalier. who also campaigned against the ban, said she was delighted with the ruling.
She told the BBC: "To me, books are an obvious way to help prisoners. We have a responsibility not just to punish people, but to rehabilitate them.
"Prison is the perfect time to read and to get inside the heads of other people. So that maybe, when you come out, you're more likely to think about other people rather than just yourself."
Author Philip Pullman said: "The ban on sending prisoners books seemed to me strikingly unjust and inhumane. Reading should be a right not a privilege to be withheld or allowed graciously by Her Majesty's government, or anyone else"

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I DON*T UNDERSTAND WHY THE PRISON SERVICE AND THE GOVERMENT  DONT RESPECT OUR RIGHTS. WE ARE CHANGING THIS BLOG SO PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF CAN  LEAVE  COMMENTS, THERE WILL BE NO ANNOMANOMOUS  COMMENTS. BE PROUD FOR WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU STAND UP FOR


Sunday, 26 October 2014

Muslim inmate at IoW Prison planned kidnap and escape


Parkhurst Prison, now part of HMP Isle of Wight The Ministry of Justice said a "very basic description" of the prison interior was found

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Detailed plans to kidnap a prison officer in a bid to escape from the Isle of Wight Prison, were found in the cell of a Muslim inmate.

An internal Prison Service document, seen by the BBC, reveals an Islamic State, or ISIS, flag was also found in the cell at the jail's Parkhurst site.

The prisoner was placed in the jail's close supervision unit.

A Ministry of Justice (MoJ) spokesman said security measures had been shown to be "robust" by the discovery.
'Detailed' plans
Details of the incident were contained in the weekly security bulletin of the National Offender Management Service which is compiled for all prisons in England and Wales.

In the bulletin for the week ending 19 October, it says "acting on intelligence a prisoner's cell was searched".

"Detailed escape plans involving taking a member of staff hostage were discovered."

It says activity at the prison was restricted "whilst the accommodation and his associates were searched".

The MoJ said "a very basic description" of the interior of the prison was found in the inmate's cell by "vigilant" staff, demonstrating the "effectiveness of its security measures".

HMP Isle of Wight was created in 2009 with the merger of Parkhurst, Albany and Camp Hill prisons.

 


 

 

Sunday, 28 September 2014

 Check out the forgotton IPP's Lifers write up  from Simon Rollason. I wouls like to welcome him to Voice for Cons and we are now getting up and running slowly and surely tell your friends and family about us and give a link to other sites. Good luck Simon from Frankie. Simon has very kindly offered to put some legal imput and to start up a campaign for The forgotton Lifers Past Tarrif.

Friday, 19 September 2014

The Forgotten Lifers

By Simon Rollason - GC Law Ltd, from insidetime issue September 2014
IPP didn’t start the fire

The Forgotten Lifers
Following the decision in Osborn and the unprecedented increase in Parole Board reviews, a considerable amount of interest has been generated in the national media regarding IPP sentences.
Of course, this interest must be applauded and any pressure which can be applied to finally curtail this monstrous piece of legislation should be welcomed. However, there are other prisoners in the estate who to a significant degree can find themselves understandably frustrated by the spotlight being set on IPP and at the same time leaving them in the shadows. They are those imposed an automatic life sentence between 1997 and April 2005, essentially for a second offence for one of 11 very serious offences, commonly referred to as the 'two strikes and you're out' sentence.
The history of such punitive periods for lifers started when life sentences were introduced in 1983 by the then Conservative administration. This was amongst other things as a result of the policy of "Three Strikes system" in the United States. However, the philosophy of US penal policy is somewhat different from that in the European Continent. The ideology and driver behind the US "Three Strikes system" is in my belief based upon the fundamental US premise that 'rehabilitation doesn't work', which means lock criminals up forever or kill them; both options are ridiculously expensive.
However, the European ideology is essentially one of working toward rehabilitation. The UK wants to go down the US system but realises it is too expensive, (even with the savings it can make with contracts to the private sector) and at the same time it has to contend with the European Courts and therefore it is limited from going the whole way.
In short, although in recent months the public and media attention has been focused that IPPs are a bad idea and the implementation of them was ill thought out, the reality is that the fundamental model of sentencing policy is not fit for the purpose of what one would hope is a modern enlightened and pragmatic penal system. Sadly, the current administration would appear to have contempt for the whole issue of prisons in relegating the minister in charge to an unpaid role, I am given to understand. There is a saying, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys ... what happens when you are not paying anything at all?
There are two ways to stop recidivism, lock up offenders forever or have a programme of proper rehabilitation, with proper access to the resources to enable that rehabilitation. The current position is an ill-conceived adhoc 'compromise' of the two. The concerns highlighted with IPP sentences recently are equally valid for life sentences. The Parole Board and the Prison Service need a full time paid minister with a full grasp of the issues to implement a dramatic review of automatic lifers. Sadly, given the current 'demotion' in status, I have to conclude the will is not there on their part to do so.
Simon Rollason is a Solicitor Advocate and Prison Law Specialist at GC Law Ltd in Hereford. Simon has represented inmates on Death Row in The State of Texas.


 
 
As printed in The Inside Times
Inside Time

Issue : September 2014

 
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Monday, 24 March 2014

Had fantastic visit with my son on Saturday
Long journey but worth every minute of the time.
Hope to be able to go again Thursday.
Good news he has had his AV stay extended not
sure how long for but anytime is better than none.
Especially after not seeing him for nearly 5 years.

Friday, 21 March 2014

Early to bed tonight ready for the morning and journey to see my son 1st time in five years. Not looking forward to journey but I am looking forward to seeing my son at long last.


Not sure how long he is where he is but have got another visit booked for almost a weeks time

Wednesday, 19 March 2014

Frankie is quiet pleased at moment with the visit on Saturday with me , my daughter
Son in law and two of my grandchildren.
He is still unable to get in contact with his legal team except via me at moment.
He says it is a lot quieter where he is at moment and food is edible.

Tuesday, 18 March 2014

A MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED

OMG IT IS HAPPENING I WILL BE SEING MY SON FOR TJHE FIRST TIME IN FIVE YEARS.
ON SATURDAY AT 2pm
THANK YOU LONG LARTIN FOR MAKING THIS POSSIBLE FOR ME AND SOME OF MY FAMILY.
Will keep you updated as to how things have gone they offered me another visit on Sunday as well
but not sure if I can manage two trips in two days with my health problems I think it may be too much for me. I am shaking like a leaf at the moment.

Monday, 17 March 2014

Waste of Time

Been at Long Lartin 11 days still no visits because VO's never got sent out took 1 week for it to be returned to me.
1 whole week wasted now told there are no visits available for weekends, knowing there are AV's down for their visits surely they should keep a few visits back for them. Really cheesed off looked forward ton seeing my mum have not seen her for 5 years she is 70 now even with AV's still unable to see my dad he is 93 with cancer so is unable to male journey.

Well fingers crossed that I will be able to get at least 1 visit with my mum before they ship me back to Frankland

Thursday, 13 March 2014

4 years of waiting no visits now 28days 3 and half hour journey for family

I am at Long Lartin for AV's only been waiting 4 years.
Still a long journey for family though.
Waiting Inside Times to try and someone to update it more
regular as mum is finding it hard
with health problems.

Anyone who knows anyone who is interested please email     voiceforcons@gmail.com                                                                                                                                                         

Tuesday, 4 February 2014

Had lots of trouble with prison service re my post not getting through.
Lots of problems still not solved.
Hoping still that it will sort out soon.
I am asking a friend of mine to take over the updating of the blog
I just hope he will be able to do it for me.
My mum has not been too good lately,hence no updates.
Will let you know when I hear from the othe guy if he can do it.

Saturday, 5 October 2013

This is an excerpt from Inside Times  which I know a lot people reading this will not know what it is all about, it is a paper for all prisoners.


Frankie my son is a lifer with an 8 year tariffs and is soon to be starting his 23rd year with no signs of release. 


Lifers – A Time For Change

By Kenny Carter , from insidetime issue August 2010
Kenny Carter calls for a fairer system for lifers who have passed their tariff dates.

Lifers – A Time For Change
In the previous two issues of Inside Time (May & June) there have been articles regarding the release of life sentenced prisoners who are well over their tariff dates. Sir David Latham, the chairman of the Parole Board, has raised various concerns and called on his own members to start releasing more lifers as it is evident that many of those over tariff are actually no threat to society whatsoever. The reality being that the vast majority of those over their tariff dates could be safely managed within the community, which in effect would save the government millions of pounds. Very few people would dispute the fact that lifers released on life license have the lowest percentage of reconviction rates, in the region of 2%. The question must be asked as to why so many lifers over tariff continue to languish within this vastly overcrowded prison system? What purpose is this actually serving? Who is really benefitting from this and isn’t it logical to assume that the longer a person is left incarcerated the more chance there is of failure?
Sir David Latham openly blames his own members for not releasing more lifers simply due to the adverse publicity by the media regarding the reoffending of some high profile cases/individuals. Is it not the case that we have the right to have our cases reviewed at regular intervals by an independent/ impartial panel? Is it not the case that the panel should not be prejudiced/ biased, nor influenced by anything other than the facts of the case in front of them? So, by Sir David’s own admission, is it not the case that those well over their tariff dates could actually have a case to make under Article 6 of the European Rights Act? In my view there should be an overall shake up of the mandatory life sentence and the parole process and measures should be incorporated to create a fairer more ‘just’ system for all of us.
Firstly abolish the mandatory life sentence. Yet reserve such sentences for the worst possible cases where life should mean life. In effect, sentences should be passed to reflect the nature/ circumstances of that offence. A man goes out for a drink with his mates, when he returns home later he finds his wife or girlfriend has been unfaithful, they argue and, in a moment of complete madness he attacks her and she dies. If found guilty of murder he is automatically sentenced to a mandatory life sentence. A man goes out with the sole intention of murder in mind, abducts a child and subjects that child to an horrendous ordeal before killing her. If found guilty he will receive a mandatory life sentence but could be out before the man convicted of the domestic murder, which is absolutely ludicrous. In the first instance the judge could take into account the circumstances of the case and decide that it doesn’t merit a mandatory life sentence but does warrant a fixed term of say 10 – 15 years. In the latter case he could either pass a life means life sentence or alternatively a fixed term of say 40 – 50 years.
Secondly, abolish the present parole system and replace it with a tribunal hearing. If it is deemed that the lifer does not pose a threat to life and limb then the panel can have the power to release and that release should be immediate. Also, if release is denied then knockbacks should be a maximum of 12 months. Thirdly, moving a lifer to category D open conditions should rest with the prison he/she is being held at. Surely if they are authorised to recategorise to C and write parole reports to determine that lifers future, then I’m quite sure they must be qualified enough to judge whether or not that individual is suitable for open conditions. Finally, the criteria surrounding the license recall system should be abolished. It should be a simple case of no finding of guilt by a court for a further offence, then no recall permitted.
At a cost of millions there are lifers who are well over tariff in prisons up and down the country that shouldn’t be and don’t need to be. In reality 99.9% will never commit another crime, let alone take somebody’s life. It is clearly time for change now. Does it not say in the parole board’s own rules surrounding the release of life sentence prisoners – “The panel must focus on risk alone. If the panel is satisfied that the applicant will not go out and commit a similar offence to what they have been convicted of, then release should be directed.” It is evident to most that those who have served their tariff could be safely managed in the community. It is a complete waste of money and resources to keep them in prison any longer. It was not so long ago that David Cameron and Nick Clegg stood side by side and stated that it is now time for change. That it was their objective to create a safer, fairer Britain for every single one of us? Let us hope that those words extend to those lifers sitting in prison cells up and down the country that no longer need to be there. Maybe they could take a leaf out of Barack Obama’s book and ask the nation if they can do it, and the nation’s answer will be YES YOU CAN!
Kenny Carter is currently resident at HMP Hull


Tuesday, 17 September 2013

We are waiting for a reply from NOMS and have not had any words from Frankie
so am in the dark what is happening at his end but when I hear from him with any news will update
accordingly. He is due for his parole at t but he end of the month still not been moved so he could do his courses which they have told him he has to do, but where he is they do not do the courses.
More news when I hear from Frankie.

Friday, 13 September 2013

Even though we have got the ok to write the Blog for Frankie ,we are still running into a few minor problems hopefully they will be sorted out sooner rather than later.
Hopefully Frankie will be able to phone me tomorrow and will put an update on.
We are also hoping to customise the site in the next couple of weeks, once I get home and sort out a few problems.
Keep reading please.

Tuesday, 6 August 2013

As printed in The Sun Newspaper 

Chris Grayling
Crackdown ... Chris Grayling

We’ll axe holiday camp perks in jail so lazy lags must work for privileges

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CUSHY “holiday camp” jails will be axed in a new war on perks for idle lags, it was being announced today.

Justice Secretary Chris Grayling wants a crackdown on inmates lying in cells watching TV.
All prisoners currently get perks and only lose them for bad behaviour — but would have to earn privileges such as their own tellies under the shake-up.
They would need to take part in prison work or training, and addicts would be required to attend drugs or booze rehab.
Inmates will also be banned from watching certificate 18 DVDs — and subscription TV will be removed from private jails.
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Easy ... cell

Mr Grayling said: “It is not right that some prisoners appear to be spending hours languishing in their cells and watching daytime television while the rest of the country goes to work.
“For too long, there has been an expectation that privileges are an automatic right. This cannot continue.”
It was welcomed by Centre for Crime Prevention campaign group director Peter Cuthbertson, who said: “It is much better that prisoners learn they must follow rules, rather than receive expensive perks automatically.”
He pointed out: “Prison must serve as a deterrent.”
But the Howard League for Penal Reform charity’s chief Frances Crook was critical. She said: “The fact the prison population has doubled in the past 20 years has left prisons overcrowded and staff overstretched, with little choice but to lock people up in their cells all day.”

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By CHRIS GRAYLING, Justice Secretary
I WANT a prison system that encourages those who want to turn their lives around — and is tougher on those who do not.
Rewards are being given for simply being passive — perks many on the outside cannot afford.
They will be linked to prisoners’ efforts. Those who refuse to co-operate will face a tougher regime.
 
 
 

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      New comment Mark as read
      TerryParker 0 likes
      time to start cutting the MP's gravy train too , why have a salary when you claim everything on expenses ??? why more then 4 weeks holiday a year , every other worker dnt get as long except teachers , why do MP's need as long or longer holidays then teachers , ive never been able to find that out , your running the country arent you , except the 12 weeks plus yr away and most weekends , so why do we need you MP's if the country runs without you for 12 weeks a year ????

      New comment Mark as read
      davep1944 0 likes
      About time too, But we will believe it when we see it like all the other empty comments.

      azphreal 0 likes
      Dont worry though because if you are well off or a MP you will get sent to a cushy prison then be let off.

      althalus 4 likes
      This is nothing to do with reform or prisoners earning privileges, this is just another cynical of imposing cuts to save money. They could save a lot more money by cutting MP's expenses and subsidies in the commons bars and restaurants. But there is not much chance of MPs losing out on anything.

      davefree 0 likes
       Saint the 1st I, we, our, your taxes are given to the biggest crooks never likely to go to prison for their crimes, the banksters, and their corporate bodies, you seem very unforgiving to your fellow human beings, I suggest you do some research and direct your anger to the truly elite crimilluminati. Your name does not befit your nature, but I beleive if you research enlightenment will follow.

      Saint the 1st 0 likes
      @davefree - Wow, so what you are telling us is that, prisoners generate and grow their own money trees, wish they could teach me.

      bs - I (the tax payer) fund every prisoner from my taxes, so how did you work that out?

      easypeezy1981 0 likes
       davefree  Well said mate.

      Saint the 1st 0 likes
      @SJ44200 - if I had my own company I wouldn't  like to employ a prison offender, there would be no trust tbh

      davefree 2 likes
      Fact, all prisoners are allocated jobs. Fact all prisoners pay £1 per week for the priveledge of their 14" coloured TV from from their £8.50pence wages. Fact every console, every DVD, every so called perk comes out of their own pockets not as you all assume from taxpayers pockets. The same rule applies in every prison and just think if you didn't dumb down the prison population who would be in the front line of the prisoners unrest, yes the poor old prison officers.

      Saint the 1st 1 like
      Excellent news, but not going to hold my breath as there is now waiting a Human right's Lawyer from Brussels & the EU to award them with more benefits and freebies

      Paul Oak 0 likes
      Simple really, its called work, from breaking rocks and ditch digging, up to the more "safe prisoners" who had jobs being made to carry on going out to work in the day but evenings and weekends in prison using wages to pay for board and lodgings!

      kopkings8 1 like
      yeah right, we believe you!!!! all the usual promises coming coz UKIP has got them terrified then when they hold on to their seat will back out and blame the EU and human rights. NO MORE CHANCES, WE'VE BEEN LIED TO FOR OVER TWO DECADES NOW AND FALLEN FOR IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN. UKIP HERE WE COME!!!!!

      Raskilnikov 1 like
      Wouldn't it be better if politicians worked for privilege's?

      anotherlilsod 3 likes
      reported on BBC news that it will be in "Male" prisons? have YOU LOT seen how Cushy it is in WOMENS prisons? makes some Motels look like dives in comparison

      PeterWhitehead 0 likes
      take back the penal system about 200-300 years and all was right, they were treat as they deserved Scumbags the lot of them You break the law you lose your rights , simple !
      they get better than most of us can afford working. its WRONG

      EmmaFitzgerald 4 likes
      The lags should never have a T.V. in their cell the first place.. They should only get a bed and toilet and fed once a day!!!! P.S they should pay the price of their crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      ColletteBrooks 0 likes
      about time, has some one actually thought that that is the reason there are so many re affenders???

      philm 5 likes
      Too little. Too late. UKIP is coming

      SJ44200 0 likes
      How about making prisoners leave prison with some sort of job to walk into?  Current education in prisons is primary-school stuff for the illiterates.  For anyone literate, there is absolutely no training for future work, or any jobs to come out to.
      THAT bothers me a whole lot more than prisoners having TVs, to be honest.

      iansheff 0 likes
      Just watching this on the news now, it said MALE prisoners will lose their  perks, so are women not going to lose theirs as well? If that's the case then  looks like there will be appeals for equality from the men.

      reff 0 likes
      "Humphrey!" "PM?" " UKIP are taking our voters!" "Only the stupidest ones, surely…" "But what would we be without our core of the unthinking, vindictive and mad?" "The Lib-Dems?" "Bernard!" "Sorry." "We need to look tougher. Sink an Argentinian ship or something!" "Hardly…" "Well it worked before…" "Perhaps a photo opportunity? You kicking a child refugee?" "Well…" "Joke! Prisons? A minister standing toughly next to prison bars?" "Yes! But he has to have a reason for being in the jail…" "Most of the cabinet have a reason for—” "Bernard!" "He can ANNOUNCE something PM!" "But what?" "It doesn't matter what. How about restricting their TV?" "Don't we do that already?" "Of COURSE we do but the people who read the Sun won't know that." "Excellent Humphrey, we need someone no one knows, or they'll think he should be in jail anyway." "May? IDS? Osborne? Oh, I see what you mean…" "I know! Gray!" "Who?" "Precisely! Now don't tell Farage or he'll be there first."

      vet 0 likes
      I will believe when I see it..

      emac 1 like
      And enter stage right: all of the bleeding heart liberals who bleat on about human rights.
      When you commit a crime and behave like an animal, you lose all entitlement to human rights.
      You want human rights? Then behave like a human.
      Personally, I would give them a mattress and a bucket to pee in and nothing more.

      AndrewWoodcock 3 likes
      Deprivatise the prisons then the change will happen !!! If they're not then this is just HOT AIR being said for votes !!! Unfortunately Minister people are understanding how you M,Ps  look down on us mere mortals,and we are'nt going to swallow this CRAP for much longer !!!
      Time to do some work !!! And i don't mean filling out your expense sheet !!!!

      alan62 1 like
      When some have more on the inside than the outside you know something is not right.

      big-oaf 0 likes
      Ok employ more prison officers as there is going to be a lot of unrest.

      deefur 6 likes
      It aint rocket science is it...........they should doing that anyway.........growing their own food maintaining the prison buildings.
      Take all the tv's out of the cells and put more beds in.................they aren't on holiday.
      One TV in a central recreation area is enough..................they don't lke it, tough don't do the crime and get put inside !
      Prison should be about punishment........not reform...........because we know that doesn't work............most of them want to get back inside because it's the easy option. !!

      world_to_rights 0 likes
      That STILL isn't good enough in my opinion - they're meant to be there for punishment, instead they're treated like grounded teenagers! ALL prisoners should be made to work - whether that be hard labour, cleaning the streets in chain gangs wearing jumpsuits, all in uniforms, growing their own food and cooking their own food, cleaning their laundry etc. Any monies earned should go to their victims, legal costs and/or their bed and board. NO television, no games, no music classes, restricted reading material, no clerics encouraging conversions - the absolute basics. If they complain about their human rights then remind them they abused someone else's/broke the law so it's tough and if they don't like it then don't come back!

      socart 1 like
       Mr Spock , I thought half our MP's were in jail? LOL

      sopara2k10 2 likes
      "chief Frances Crook was critical. She said: “The fact the prison population has doubled in the past 20 years has left prisons overcrowded and staff overstretched, with little choice but to lock people up in their cells all day.""

      So? The sheer boredom of prison would serve as a deterrent and stop people wanting to go back! but if they have tv it makes it a lot more tolerable which is a bad thing in the context of what is supposed to be a punishment.

      kian 2 likes
      I can hear it all now, that's against my human rights lol

      gibsones335 2 likes
      Justice Secretary Chris Grayling should visit Alcatraz and see what a real prison should be like. He should then make sure that all our prisons are replicas in design and the way they bare run.

      vicious.sid 0 likes
      Ho hum, we haven't got elections coming up, have we? What's that I see in the distance, could it be a u-turn? Let me assure you, good law abiding people of Britain, the perks that prisoners get are NOT taken away for bad behaviour. They probably are for minor offences, but I can ASSURE you that the worst behaved you are, the more violent you are, the more of a dirty druggy you are, you get the perks straight away without working for them. Only the best behaved who follow the rules actually have to EARN the perks and they are taken away again for the slightest transgression. Prison is only a deterrent for the good people who are not career criminals and miss their families - career criminals love it. It's totally wrong.

      Mr Spock 3 likes
      Yeah right, then who foots the bill when all the prison riots begin when their tv's have been taken away ? Half of these imbecile MP's should be in jail, then let them do a days work for a change.

      allyd2 0 likes
      Surely the point is whether or not they work there should be NO privileges, jail is a punishment  and should be treated as such .

      @decentandhonest Chain gang the scum...i bet you bring a lot to a sensible conversation numpty

      ive been inside its hard 2 get jobs in there as its same as outside not enough 2 go around.education is another thing though the amount of kids ive seen inside who cannot read and write is ridiculous,i think all illiterate people on a sentence of 2 yr and above should not be working but doing education,if they learn to read write etc they might be able to get a job on the outside and stop reoffending

      The Cyd 0 likes
      The Government will have to get rid of the Human rights law and the Health and safety one.
      I cannot see it happening though as they have one big stumbling block.
      Do Gooders.

      robbed 0 likes
      I'm not holding my breath.

      tcc 0 likes
      I've just had the first draft rushed to me as to what the draconian measures are going to be! 1, lights out at 10 pm (but they can use their table lamps!) 2. Their mobile phones will only be charged up once a week. 3. The TV will be switched off at 7pm, however they will still be able to watch videos (especially of porridge) until 9.30pm. 4. Only three choices of main course and puddings will be allowed at lunch and dinner times. 5. The prisoners will only be allowed 3 hours of nuptial visits from their wifes or boyfriends on Sunday morning after their swimming and yoga classes. 6. The Monday evening darts and snooker tournament will be stopped until further notice. 7. And finally only two spoonfuls of sugar will be allowed per cup of tea/coffee/cocoa. Her Majesty's Prison Service, will ask for these measures to be implemented after seeking permission from the prisoners union....Prisoners in Search of Freedom or PISOF for short!

      LukeKJ 0 likes
      Good luck with your plans. Training programmes are limited to how many they can place due to health and safety. You are sent to prison as punishment not for punishment. Many will try to sue for breach of human rights. What about the people on remand who are fighting to be free?

      Do you really want the images of Strangeways going up in smoke on international news again or have British prisons likened to Eastern European prisons of the Soviet era? Try sitting down with serving Prison Officers and asking for their advice on the best way to deal with prisoners.
      It's no good asking a baker how to grow corn, they might be part of the chain but don't know everything.

      dakota1876 0 likes
      In theory a good idea, in practise of course it will never work, because of the PC Brigade and the ECHR, prisoners will shout the magic words "human rights" and it will be back to square one.

      worriedlad 0 likes
      Cris Greyling is anoither one that is living in Cockoo  Land------- He is NO better than ALL the others before him .--------When are they going to see that PRISON is SUPPOSED to be a PUNISHMENT.NOT a Holiday.------ There should NOT be TV or anything else  for that matter.--- The offenders are there for PUNISHMENT and all the time they find that it is better of IN PRISON  they will KEEP offending so as to go  back to a nice life at the EXPENCE of the TAX PAYER and the stupidy of the Home Office

      brjt 0 likes
      They should put prisoners in care homes, then they'll be treated badly, get given nasty food to eat and have no life quality..... THEN they should put the pensioners in prison where they will have TV's, heating, Playstations, decent food, libraries, free access to a gym - the list is endless.

      birdjaguar 0 likes
      Empty PR rubbish from another self inflated ego that wouldn't find a job in the real world. Benefit scrounger

      cb155tw 0 likes
      So many people go to jail for petty crimes again and again, cos there's no real punishment doing time in the present prison system. Most of them do have a better life inside than out, that's why they don't care about re-offending. Make it tougher in prison then they'll not want to be back in there so easily and quickly.

      Don't be saying it's only petty crimes people...wait till they burgle your house or steal your car, then ask yourself again should they just watch tv all days long for their punishment!?!

      tierwatcher 0 likes
      Why do Prisoners have to have TV's in the first place? Put an END to this Luxury Life for these Prisoners who are serving Time for Crimes against other Citizens, Children or Animals!!!!
      A Bible and 24/7 Lock up is More than they deserve and will act as a Deterrent!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      paul_hutchinson 0 likes
       antisocialist Why on earth is it a 'RIGHT' to have a television in your cell? Prison is a punishment for gods sake. No tv's, hard labour and bread for tea. Surely this would make them think twice before committing another crime.

      trebor44 0 likes
      Its about time something was done about our holiday camp prisons, but now watch out for all these bleeding hearts, human rights brigade, and our greatest enemy, THE EU.

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